This week, I had the pleasure of interviewing Dorie Clark, a renowned speaker, writer, consultant, and executive coach. Dorie has been honored as one of the top 50 business thinkers globally by Thinkers 50 and shares her expertise with institutions like Columbia Business School and Harvard Business Review. Dorie played a pivotal role in shaping my perspective on visibility work, and in this episode, I’ll share the story of how I successfully invited her on the podcast. Join us as we dive into the realm of personal branding, reinvention, and embracing the “long game.”
01:22 – I kick off the episode by recounting my journey to secure Dorie Clark as a guest on the podcast. It began with a less-than-ideal request but ultimately led to success through a heartfelt apology email.
08:05 -Dorie shares her insights into how individuals react to the concept of reinvention: some embrace it as an exciting opportunity, while others view it as a daunting necessity.
09:50 – We delve into Dorie’s personal journey of reinvention, marked by a trial-and-error approach. She reflects on her initial resistance to the idea and the moment she realized reinvention was not just a choice but a necessity due to broader industry challenges.
12:15 – Dorie emphasizes the importance of recognizing opportunities for reinvention before they become urgent necessities. She shares a personal anecdote about almost missing out on a significant career opportunity.
16:22 – Our discussion shifts to how people seek solutions. Dorie highlights that individuals often seek guidance for specific, narrow problems rather than abstract longings.
19:56 – I ask Dorie about her approach to choosing her areas of focus. She underlines the significance of aligning one’s efforts with personal enjoyment, playing to one’s strengths, and maintaining consistency to build and sustain an audience over time.
22:06 – Dorie shares her decision to prioritize her latest book, “The Long Game,” and give it the attention and time it deserves in the marketplace.
23:28 – Our conversation shifts to the impact of age on one’s perspective regarding long-term goals. Dorie shares a poignant story illustrating how self-limiting beliefs can hinder personal growth and why it’s essential to challenge them.
28:24 -In her three-minute of advice to women, Dorie encourages them not to compare themselves to the most exceptional figures in their field but to those already in the marketplace, fostering self-confidence and a sense of purpose.
You can find Dorie, her work, and her books on her website